Google translation (poor - but can still get
the gist of the letter - shocking stuff!):
1/27 this document are a copy with occasional adjustment at
the new orthography and orthografischen changes. 15.
November 2005. Document recordings over the reasons of mine
on 25 November 1950 took place resignation as
Stammapostelhelfer and successor in the Stammapostelamte.
For this first a short overview of the prehistory is given
to my appointment to the office as Stammapostelhelfer and
successors of the Stammapostels: Already for years the
Apostel had exchanged its concern with occasional meetings
in conversations over the future of the work of God. It
rested on the Aposteln the question, which was to probably
become, if the Stammapostel would home-go, without for his
part a successor had been ordered. Already in the year 1939
Apostel E. Guettinger in writing submitted this concern to
the Stammapostel, without the Stammapostel of the solution
of this question stepped more near. Then Apostel land count
put the request for segregation of a successor in the
Stammapostelamte close to the Stammapostel in the year 1940
or 1941. Thereupon the Stammapostel wrote the then
attainable Apostel?? it was war, and went the inquiry thus
only to the German Apostel?? they would like it, without one
was to take with other consultation, so that no humanly can
affect the other one, that in its spirit to the high office
of a Stammapostels aroused man, to call. Short time
thereafter wrote the Stammapostel that the result of its
rundfrage was, it to 4 Apostel the Apostel kuhlen would have
suggested. He noticed for this that obviously in the affair
the necessary concord does not prevail and it cannot act.
After completion of the war the question of the succession
for the Stammapostel had become still more burning due to
the high age of the Stammapostels then and naturally also
article of discussions under the Aposteln. In August 1947
were the Apostel Lembke, land count, Knigge, Schmidt, wine
man and I with Stammapostel in Hamburg. There the
Stammapostel held Sundays 2 services and already drove
following the in the afternoon service with Apostel Knigge
heimwaerts, in order to make into Hanover stopover. The
other Apostel remains to other tags in Hamburg, since a home
travel for her would have been too far on Sunday. In the
evening of the betref2/27 Sundays brought then Apostel
Lembke the language fenden on the topic of the follow-up of
the Stammapostels, and all Apostel discussion their fears
regarding the future of the work of God. All were of the
concern fulfill with the high age of the Stammapostels its
home course to suddenly occur can, without a successor for
it would be selected. We came together to the conviction
that it would be necessary to speak the Stammapostel the
request a successor to order. About this however
consultation should be taken and agreed we also with the
Aposteln living in South Germany that the Lembke and wine
man should agree with the South German Aposteln over one
time and place to a discussion of this thing. It took place
then also soon thereafter a meeting of the Apostel Lembke,
wine man, sound, and hard man at a place in South Germany,
with which this Apostel conversed in detail about the
problem and completely united it went in the opinion that
the Stammapostel the request [ P. 2 ] should be spoken
around appointment of a successor. At the end of October to
1947 were then the Apostel Lembke, Knigge, Schmidt, wine man
and I on behalf of the Stammapostels on the condition of the
districts in the east zone of Germany, like that we first in
Berlin with the Aposteln land count and upper countries
together were. Therefore the Apostel Lembke and wine man
reported and stressed discussion with the South German
Aposteln on the result their particularly Apostel Lembke
again the urgency of the segregation of a successor for the
Stammapostel. It was decided to set for the Stammapostel an
appropriate asking letter which should be signed then
however, before it became the Stammapostel, by European
Aposteln. One agreed to hand a such letter at all to the
Stammapostel over only if all European Apostel without
exception signed such a document, because one was afraid
with the hypersensitivity of the Stammapostels into this
points that otherwise this would take the Aposteln concerned,
which had signed a gemaesses letter very badly. The Apostel
Schmidt and upper countries went then first in the office of
the Apostels land count and a first draft of the letter to
the Stammapostel made. This draft manufactured by the
Aposteln Schmidt and upper countries found the present
Apostel in some remarks somewhat too sharply, and I was
asked to write again that to letter and according to
abzufeilen. I have then the draft made by the Aposteln
Schmidt and upper countries revised under correcting those
sentences, whatever could have worked opposite that 3/27
Stammapostel only in smallest way hurting. The new writing
found then the absolute approval of the Apostel Lembke, land
count, Knigge, Schmidt, wine man and upper countries. To
order in the mentioned letter the Stammapostel asked
baldigst a new Stammapostel, so that God people may not come
with his possible home course into a Krisis. Also was
recommended to the Stammapostel to catch up the opinion of
the Apostel who in their view the man prepared by the
gentleman was probably, since he if the carriers of the
office of the spirit expressed their conviction, which had
best guarantee in the voice of the Apostel the voice of God
to recognize and that the certification of the Apostel is
probably more confident than faces and dreams. Except this
also of me the Apostel put then still another second letter,
whose contents admit to me only later became to signed
letters on. In this letter the Apostel suggested me as the
successor of the Stammapostels. It was then arranged that
two the Apostel present in Berlin should travel after the
Aposteln Buchner, hard man, sound and Ludwig and let
zustimmendenfalls from them sign. Apostel skirt straw should
be made familiar with the attendance of the Apostel wine man
and kuhlen in districts Leipzig in same week with the
discussing and signed zustimmendenfalls. To Swiss Apostel it
should be inquired on written way, when and where they could
have a meeting with the Aposteln Lembke and wine man in
important affair, and further should two Apostel of in
Berlin met with two the South German Apostel together for
the collecting main of the writing to the Stammapostel to
travel. Few days after our home travel from Berlin and the
east zone of Germany traveled the Apostel E. and O.
Guettinger from Switzerland to Holland, and Apostel Lembke
agreed with the same that he and Apostel wine man with them
in my dwelling in Duesseldorf meet could. With the short
stay of Swiss Apostel in Duesseldorf the Apostel Lembke and
wine man opened all this and received from the same also the
signature. The E. and O. Guettinger traveled from
Duesseldorf to Holland, where then also Apostel Paasman
signed, and after their return to Switzerland also Apostel
signed cutters. [ P. 3 ] now the Apostel Lembke and wine man
already undertook two times in the affair a large journey (first
to South Germany for discussion with the Aposteln hard man
and sound and then after Duesseldorf for discussion with the
Aposteln 4/27 E. and O. Guettinger), then I by Apostel wine
man was asked, the journey to the Aposteln Buchner, hard
man, to undertake sound and Ludwig at its place with Apostel
Lembke. Although I against it violently straeubte myself, I
had given way good lastly that to urge and with the Apostel
Lembke together first driven to Apostel Buchner, which gave
its signature, and then we met the Apostel hard man, sound
in Karlsruhe in the dwelling of the Apostels hard man, and
Ludwig, with which we discussed ourselves and which also
signed. To notice I that I up to then contents of the
document where I as a successor was suggested must had not
read. That letter was discussed in each case without my
presence with the different Aposteln and signed by these. I
only later got a photocopy of the document, where one had
suggested me than successor of the Stammapostels, by Apostel
Lembke set. It was originally intended following the
Karlsruher discussion, in which the last signatures were
given to drive together with two the South German Apostel to
the Stammapostel and submit this everything. Hiergegen
however particularly expressed Apostel sound its doubts that
he said that after its exact knowledge of the mentality of
the Stammapostels this was not borne it, if he would be so
suddenly visited by several Aposteln in such an affair,
without the Apostel was announced at him before. Apostel
sound also mentioned that the Stammapostel could not bear a
registration of several Apostel purpose discussion of the
successor question at all, it would be thus completely
impossible that we could travel directly afterwards to our
Karlsruher Zusammensein to several Aposteln to the
Stammapostel. Apostel sound suggested that he wanted to
announce with the Stammapostel for discussion in any thing
and then after lecture of this unimportant affair the thing
the Stammapostel will speak. Thus Apostel Lembke and I drove
from Karlsruhe directly again home to travel against that
tarpaulin, with two the South German Apostel following the
Karlsruher discussion to the Stammapostel. Later it was very
badly noted us the fact that we are not in-turned with the
Stammapostel would have worked but behind its back. With the
fact I may notice that in all the discussions no ugly word
is fallen against the Stammapostel that from working against
it nirgend and never the speech, separates the agreement of
all Apostel in the question of the solution the follow-up
shank of the Stammapostels was was only determined. 5/27
after the Apostel sound to its important discussion with the
Stammapostel had announced, let the same by district-oldest
wines by telephone with Apostel the sound inquire, which
affair it concerns. And there Apostel had to say sound stop,
which it concerned. Thereupon the Stammapostel is very
excited and the Apostel sound, hard man, Ludwig and Buchner
to it was then ordered. When this Apostel was with the
Stammapostel and the documents had handed over, the
Stammapostel of its Entruestung has expression given that
the Apostel behind its back would have spoken about
everything, instead of confidentially with it to speak etc.
etc.. (it went at all differently causing than in the so
important question first an agreement of all Apostel. Which
was thereby injustice?). The Apostel had nevertheless used
but had written hurting word in such a way in its letter
none the Stammapostel, that him highest Ehrerbietung was
gezollt. [ P. 4 ] the Stammapostel sound, hard man, Ludwig
and Buchner opposite the Aposteln in such a manner indignant
about the step of the Apostel spoke and to the men explained
the fact that the appointment of a successor would be alone
its thing and not affair of the Apostel that it the
gentleman showed still no successor etc., it cried thereby
violently that the Apostel mentioned was shaken by the
reaction of the Stammapostels and then said to him, it
evenly their signature would then withdraw. Afterwards came
then a letter of the Stammapostels to the Apostel, whose
contents of terrible reproaches were filled against the
Apostel. Among other things it meant in the fact that some
Apostel it would have sat down to the goal of destroying God
work. Me personally reproaches made, which I would not like
to repeat here, I however in a letter to the Stammapostel in
all love corrected. The letter of the Stammapostels was in
such a manner terrible and failing in his contents and clay/tone
that Apostel Schmidt said: letter of the Stammapostels is
directly satanisch, it may never into the public come,
otherwise the Stammapostel is settled with all?? The Apostel
Lembke, Knigge, Schmidt, wine man and I met then for
consultation, where we gave all unserm to frightening over
the letter of the Stammapostels expression and maintained us
about it, what now to be done is. We agreed that everyone of
us was to take position in writing at the Stammapostel again
to everything, which also happened then. Apostel Schmidt
drove personally to the Stammapostel and our opinion spoke
and also the Stammapostels opinion belonged. I was with the
Stammapostel and with him exchanged myself. I have it
thereby my attitude aus6/27 said that he can intend everyone
the Apostel for his successor, I anyhow with joys under
everyone would druecklich in such a way place myself, whom
he would also choose. In best agreement I traveled from the
Stammapostel again heimwaerts. The Apostel Lembke, wine man,
Knigge and Schmidt made letters to the Stammapostel for its
part the extremely reproachful letter of the Stammapostels.
As the Stammapostel in very detailed and essentially, read
he had just begun to read letter held of the Apostels wine
man in it the sentence: pray to the gentleman that it you in
this important affair wisdom give?? When the Stammapostel
read this sentence, he threw the letter away furiously and
the same no longer continued to read. He said wines to the
present to district-oldest that it was outrageous that a
Apostel considered it necessary, for it, the Stammapostel,
wisdom from the gentleman to to request. The Stammapostel
likewise did not read the likewise very material, detailed
and letter of the Apostels Lembke written in affectionate
clay/tone according to statements district-oldest crying.
After several letters of different Aposteln and also the
personal discussion of the Apostels Schmidt and my personal
conversation with the Stammapostel then later an invitation
of the Stammapostels was issued to the European Apostel to
21. To appear May 1948 in Frankfurt to the
Apostelversammlung, where even then in secret choice of the
successors of the Stammapostels by the Apostel should be
chosen. This choice had been suggested and/or arranged by
the Stammapostel. When then the Apostel was met on 21 May
1948 in Frankfurt/Main, several Apostel, first of all
however I, have which Stammapostel urgently asked again he
may one nevertheless the Apostel for its successor intend,
we all us under each from him appointing would bend, whom he
might have also appointed. But the refused the Stammapostel
persistently and insisted on the fact that a secret choice
should take place. To all present Apostel wahlzettel were
then spent, on which the names of all stood at that time on
earth living Apostel [ P. 5 ] and behind the name a round
circle in which for everyone a cross behind the name of the
Apostels make should, which it regarded as the successor of
the Stammapostels. The Stammapostel did not take part in the
choice tuning. The secret tuning resulted in then in the
first ballot that 9 voices were allotted to 3 voices to me,
to Apostel sound and 2 voices to Apostel land count.
Thereupon the Apostel explained sound and land count that
they rejected for their part. Thereupon a second secret
ballot was made, in which all anwesen7/27 the Apostel took
part except the Stammapostel and me. And this tuning in the
second ballot resulted in the unanimous suggestion of all
Apostel to appoint me as successors of the Stammapostels.
The result of this choice was logged as follows: the choice
of a successor of the Stammapostels stood for the agenda. In
secret tuning in the second ballot by all Bezirksaposteln
and Aposteln was selected unanimously the Bezirksapostel
Peter Kuhlen, Duesseldorf, to the successor of the
Stammapostels?? The overseas Aposteln of the taken place
choice message given by the Stammapostel, and gave then also
all this their written agreement to my segregation as
Stammapostel successors. The installation into the office of
a Stammapostelhelfers and a successor in the
Stammapostelamte was then made on 1 August 1948 in Bielefeld
by the Stammapostel. Into this services the Stammapostel
implemented the following after the celebration of the holy
communion: I have to say you still something. You know that
I am no more young man. On coming 2 January become I 78
years. Now the Apostel already longer time was be frightened
around the future of the work; because what was
through-lived and is at present through-lived, does not pass
without trace us. And the question came evenly nevertheless:
Who is to take over, if I will recall from the gentleman,
the guidance of the work? The Apostel came closer some time
ago about this to me and the Apostel kuhlen as my future
successor suggested. In the spring, on 21 May, then the
Apostel came to Frankfurt. According to the statute a secret
choice was made, by which unanimously choosing of Apostel
kuhlen was specified as my successor. Now it was added also
still that on 28 July before 100 years father Niehaus was
born and there we did not want to pass nevertheless on this
day, without thinking of its, which worked father Niehaus in
the time of its activity in works. Also all overseas Apostel
has in the meantime its agreement given for the installation
of the Apostels kuhlen as my successor. And this day today
is intended for the segregation of the Apostels kuhlen as
future Stammapostel. As long as I am there and able to work,
he is my aid. In the instant however, where I will recall by
illness or otherwise as from the gentleman, it steps easily
to my place. So I want now today the action to carry out and
to him office and order hand over, so that then the concern
is taken by the Aposteln around the future guidance of the
work. now many of the brothers and brothers and sisters
count 8/27 on the fact that the gentleman would come to my
time. In addition I notice: I did not teach ever that the
gentleman would have to do that. To believe that the
gentleman comes to our time, that cannot forbid anybody to
us and is not also forbidden; because those, which have a
goal before eyes, prepare also accordingly. The whole
however has to do absolutely nothing with the day of the
gentleman. When father Niehaus had used me in the year 1924
as his successor, he had been still 6 years fit for duty. So
the dear God also me can add still time to the service;
Apostel kuhlen is then in this time my aid. Thus he will
take over the Stammapostelamt with the instant, where [ P. 6
] I become serve unable, or the Mr. me recalls. This
installation changes absolutely nothing in the hour of
coming the gentleman, and it would be toericht to want to
believe now at one time that now the gentleman would still
for a long time not come because of the installation. Such a
thought would be completely wrong; because, which in the
advice conclusion of God of the father is determined, by no
thing, neither by angels nor by humans, one changes?? I want
to turn to Apostel kuhlen; because it has to say to it or no??
Question of the Stammapostels at Apostel kuhlen: Do they
want in the time, where I can still work, my faithful aid to
be, and they, if me the gentleman has gone hinnen of, want
to administer then the Stammapostelamt in God-intended way
in the faith, in the love, in an alive hope and in
unverbruechlicher loyalty? If the fact that their firm will
is confirms it by. Apostel kuhlen answered: Yes! Then the
Stammapostel spoke to it: to names and order of the
Apostelkollegiums take the Stammapostelamt, in addition the
office spirit in the name of God of the father, the son and
the holy spirit! This spirit makes the office alive in you;
it is in you the driving and prominent strength, in order to
be able to be predecessors and model. Carry the weak ones in
patience and long courage, put the Niedergebeugte up, and
strengthen what weak and void becomes. The spirit of the
gentleman, who is given to you to this office, retains you
on the way, on which the Mr. placed you, and angel of the
gentleman is your protection and screen and protects you
spoiling, which will go there everywhere into action. In
addition too take the benedictions of God of the father, the
son and the holy spirit. The peace of Christo Jesu is with
you! Amen???? In the following time I did everything, what
in my forces, in order to support the Stammapostel and
please it. I had a good relationship, 9/27 with him also
always had however unfortunately in the time of my activity
as Stammapostelhelfer to notice increasingly that forces
were against me other work, which it did not please at all
that I should take over once the line of the work. These
people very probably knew that I would not bear various
things, which happened under the cover of the holy ideal of
our faith no more, if I should take over the line of the
work. And if and others reported the Apostel with all kinds
of despicable things, which were committed under abuse of
the high attention for the Stammapostel and consideration
for these, then I have in accordance with ancestor to be
patient up to the natural solution of this question by the
home course of the Stammapostels. If?? like that was an
arguing?? these things were brought to lifetimes of the
Stammapostels to discussion, then the relationship to the
Stammapostel would be very much clouded and no good solution
would be reached nevertheless. And I wanted to know a
thorough clearing of the things, which involve a humanizing
of the thing and the gradual dwindling of our ideal, secured.
We could meet the influence of unauthorized itself switching
on people my judgement effectively only if no pietaetvolle
consideration on the Stammapostel (thus after its evtl.
Death) more to be taken needed. It became ever clearer me in
the course of the time that certain people with all list
aimed at it, the action, by which I had been selected to the
successor of the Stammapostels, to cancel. In the
magazines??Waechterstimme, Official Journal and our family??
ever more precisely the tendency stepped out that the
Apostel and the Apostelkollegium might be nothing different
one than sakeless tools in the hand of the Stammapostels [
P. 7 ]. It was not preached to the people of God no more
like in former times it would like its Apostel to trust, but
it it should have eight on their Apostel, whether he
believed also in all things, loved, hoped and taught like
the Stammapostel, otherwise one they did not need to follow
the same no more. Thus did it come there that in eingien
Apostelbezirken groups formed, which itself??stammaposteltreu??
called and their task saw to criticize the responsible
Apostel. And always then, if the Apostel concerned acted it
not completely after their will entrenchd itself with their
resistance against the Apostel behind it if they did not
erkenneten that their Apostel would be no longer whole with
the Stammapostel one, it needed it no more on the same to
depend. Apostel sound reported to me that also in his
district a priest had publicly taught that the experience
would have shown that also Apostel could drop and that one
needed to thus only depend on the Stammapostel. 10/27 in the
Saarland I several times said there particularly to the
brothers opponierenden against Swiss Apostel that it is each
right to turn complaint-prominently across a Apostel to the
Stammapostel but that it is entitled never to the members of
a municipality or a Apostel the subordinated office-holders,
on its part a Apostel to reject. One can it nevertheless the
work from down upward reform, but must from above downward
in order hold, otherwise one there would be a chaos. For a
long time in the neuapostolischen magazines an absolute
however government of the Stammapostels was taught and that
it as the head the alone correct teachings verkuendige. Ever
more was called it completely clearly that the Apostel would
have in works of God nothing at all to decide, but this
excluding thing of the Stammapostels was. So that-pursued
one the goal of making attentive on the fact that the
segregation of the Stammapostelhelfers kuhlen had been
caused by a resolution of the Apostel and thus probably not
be recognized could. In the article??Einssein?? Perfection??
in No. 18 of the Official Journal from the year 1950 it was
called literal: row of humans can express an opinion by
majority decision, without being thereby one. The Apostel of
the gentleman however wants to be with them by God given the
head one, like that as the son with the father one was and
is. For it there is no majority decision, no choice and no
proportion of votes. On such conditions met decisions would
not have existence before the strength of the faith and
would have by all Glaeubigen and faithful ones to be
rejected?? This article originates by the whole way of
writing to judge from the feather/spring of a man, was been
to who because of my removal. To notice I must that I did
not have any influence despite my position as first
coworkers of the Stammapostels on the neuapostolische press.
In addition both in the Saarland and in the Frankfurt
Apostelbezirk (particularly in the district Wiesbaden)
whispering propaganda was passed on from mouth to mouth that
the choice of the Apostels kuhlen would have been a human to
the successor of the Stammapostels. In the Saarland the
district-oldest and district EH gelists told me like also
close the related Apostels skirt fields, the EH gelist
Steffen that I would have become never Stammapostelhelfer,
if Apostel had been already skirt fields at that time in the
Apostelkreise. Also one said there completely openly, if had
succeeded to eliminate the Apostel E. Guettinger then would
go the next jump against kuhlen. On the part of those, which
opponierten against Apostel E. Guettinger, some marks
imprudently one expressed: comes does Guettinger??Erst to
the row and then kuhlen.?? 11/27 in January 1950 was I in
Holland, at which opportunity Apostel Kamphuis there told me
of its first attendance in Frankfurt/Main, with [ P. 8 ]
which it in the year 1949 with the aid Schlaphoff together
in the dwelling of the district EH gelists Friedrich
Bischoff was and under several heard that F. Bischoff said
to the Stammapostelhelfer Schlaphoff: Guettinger must we
eliminate, that must raus from the Apostelkreis. The
district EH gelist Bischoff had probably assumed that the
Dutch Apostel Kamphuis would not have understood these into
German spoken words. But Apostel Kamphuis understood only
too well and was deeply shaken by a such language. Against
the Apostel E. Guettinger then a storm went loosely also
with increasing violence, which had the goal to eliminate
the upright man. And always I placed myself protecting
against Apostel E. Guettinger and between him and the
Stammapostel mediated again and again and everything did, in
order to avoid a break, for the work of God fatal
consequences had haett. My defense for Apostel E. Guettinger
is me however much committing ELT; because I should
eliminate in the opposite the man helping, who was so
uncomfortable in its open, truth-loving kind. Then the
problem of the to Ruhesetzung of the already over 65 years
old Apostel came to language in the spring 1950. And as the
Stammapostel the Aposteln that the Apostel hard man, E.
Guettinger, Schneider, Buchner and Ludwig would have
exceeded this age, this wrote the request into the
retirement to thus therefore step would have, placed Apostel
E. Guettinger that the length of service border for Apostel
was to be set on 70 or 72 years that then in addition, the
Stammapostel must fall under this regulation, because also
it would be subjected to the age features like every other
humans etc.. This request of the Apostels E. Guettinger was
taken up on the part of the Stammapostels with terrible
annoying, and was then only called that Apostel E.
Guettinger wanted to eliminate the Stammapostel. In on 8 May
1950 in Berlin had Apostelversammlung said then to
frightening present one the Stammapostel to everything that
he had received a letter, according to which the Apostel
intended him with its demnaechstigen 80. To shift birthday
into the retirement. On the fact I said that of it under the
Aposteln the speech had still never been and this would not
correspond absolutely to the facts. In the same way also the
other Apostel said. The Stammapostel meant then however that
probably nevertheless concerning this had to be spoken, he
wants us to therefore say. I asked then: more??Wer such a
lieful letter wrote??? on the fact the Stammapostel answered
that the letter had been anonymous. All Apostel of their
Entruestung on that gave expression over such doing. I 12/27
asked then still whether the letter would be still present,
on which the Stammapostel answered he had the same into the
waste-paper basket thrown. I had to thing impression that
those people, which an interest in it had that the
Stammapostel up to its death would remain in its office and
that I had to be relieved up to then of my office, this
anonymous letter the Stammapostel to have written. Those
knew the fearfulness of the Stammapostels and thereby
before-painted how bad Apostel it had around itself. Or
however, such a letter arrived in reality never with the
Stammapostel and it concerned when stating this thing by the
Stammapostel a bare??Auf the shrubs knocks??, in order to
experience whether something regarding the to Ruhesetzung of
the Stammapostels under way is not. When then the Apostel
with the Stammapostel stayed in Holland, the Stammapostel
explained E. to the Aposteln and O. Guettinger and R.
Schneider to 18.6.1950 in the hotel room in Eindhoven that
the Mr. gave a revealing it that it would not die any longer
and it would have thus no veranlassung to withdraw
particularly since it was still much healthier than kuhlen
etc.. Was the fear, which Apostel wanted to set the
Stammapostel to the peace, completely unfoundedly, because
concerning this had I anyhow never in my time as
Stammapostelhelfer spoken. [ P. 9 ] from the time on then
more and more the teachings arose that the Stammapostel the
Wiederkunft Christi would complete to experience and the
work that it was thus also the last Stammapostel. From
different sides me gradually the report that the
Stammapostel said, it became brought a God revealing,
according to which it would not die any longer and the work
will lead to the completion. In the Apostelkreis the
Stammapostel did not say this report up to my moving ride as
Stammapostelhelfer publicly. Ever more clearly it became
then recognizable that one sought to cold-set me. Thus I
immediately telephoned at the 29.8.19[.. ] after me by
bishop Steidlinger to communicated home course of the
Apostels hard man to Frankfurt that I gladly to in bath the
Orb for recovery because-end Stammapostel to come wanted, in
order to speak with it about the funeral of the Apostels
hard man, since the Stammapostel will not probably hold the
funeral service, that became me at the telephone by the
district-oldest F. Bischoff politely, but fails completely
certainly. I said that I would be with my car well three
hours in Frankfurt and would drive then from there to the
obvious bath Orb, I would hold for necessarily etc.. But
13/27 the district-oldest Bischoff explained to me, that a
completely unnecessary journey, which I am to save, was he
to bath Orb to the father would drive immediately
nevertheless and to me the necessary would then communicate.
By district-oldest wines I experienced by telephone that he
at the district-oldest F. Bischoff the report made that
Apostel hard man home-went and that then probably the aid
kuhlen must hold the funeral, on which the district-oldest
Bischoff answered to him that nevertheless the Apostel could
make sound and I did not need to make the journey. When the
son of the Stammapostels with Apostel skirt fields had then
driven to bath Orb, I received the written report by Apostel
of skirt fields that Apostel hard man would have wished
during its lifetimes that the Apostel sound might have held
the funeral. How turned out later by asking bishop
Steidlinger (son-in-law of the Apostels hard man), of it
members of the Apostels hard man anything were not
well-known. In that by day burying the Apostels hard man in
Frankfurt Apostelversammlung taken place it came before also
to the language that the Stammapostel in own had briefly
before discussed written letter to the Apostel the
relationship of the Stammapostels to the Aposteln and the
Apostel to the Stammapostelhelfer. In this letter it was
clearly laid down that any correspondence?? it is then
absolutely private kind?? between the Aposteln and me order
would not be. I said then in those Apostelversammlung that I
would have still never had any exchange of letters over the
work things concerning with one the Apostel, unless I had
been assigned in addition by the Stammapostel or that I
would have sent copy of my relevant letters to the
Stammapostel. I asked, one might have asked the Apostel
whether any letter of me exists, where I would have
corresponded in affairs of work or another Apostelbezirkes
with someone but has itself for this nobody, because I
really led no correspondence across the things the thing
Stammapostels was announced, is, it has from this known it,
assigned me or received copy. But then it meant, then it had
been not meant. In reality one had arranged the Stammapostel
distrustfully made against me and him to prevent each
connection of the Apostel to me if possible. Then my second
Saarland journey, together with Apostel petrol Guettinger,
took place with which I had everything, in addition, all
feasible one quantities to accomplish a reconciliation of
all brothers. I pursued the principle for losing none for
helping but all. Anybody does not have I a reproach made, on
the other hand also none of any side sued fall to let, but
to all-round assigning reminded. I had not condemned however
14/27 such, which wanted to see certainly [ P. 10 ] people
absolutely distant. And that was again bent taken to me. I
still stand on that points of view that we carry the office
of the reconciliation and not for office for judge and that
we all to help and to condemn not be supposed. Particularly
since one was in the Saarland as questionable, who had
probably been missing at most. In addition one could write a
special chapter. It had to be noticeable for months that in
the magazine??Unsere family?? with reports on services,
which the Stammapostel held and which I had along-served, my
execution either only to a completely small part, or only
with a general sentence, or was even absolutely not
mentioned, although it was so far even always the case, if
at a place, where the Stammapostel of services appeared
held, one the Apostel cooperated, then in the report
concerning this in??Unserer family?? few also something over
the remarks of the along-serving Apostels. In June 1950 the
Stammapostel with all European Aposteln was in Holland,
where it held three very large services. In all three
services I have more time in serving in accordance with the
request of the Stammapostels filled out than usual and the
Stammapostel less spoke than otherwise, because even the
Dutch language is not powerful and I should talk in Dutch to
the met ones. But in over the three large services into??Unsere
family, held in Holland?? published report with a word it
was not even mentioned that I along-served at all in
Holland. The probably existing concern, I could be moved too
much into the foreground, was really unauthorized, because
afterwards my sense did not stand absolutely. By Apostel
petrol Guettinger I that Apostel would have told him sound,
experienced it am to 19. August 1950 traveled in the car of
the Stammapostels to the Apostelzusammenkunft to Bielefeld,
and during this travel said the Stammapostel to Apostel
sound, I would have adversely expressed myself in the
dwelling district-oldest crying over the Stammapostel.
Apostel sound said to the fact that he accompanied me in
March 1950 with the journey by the municipalities of the
district yard in Bavaria would have mentioned and I would
not have only ordered there everywhere greetings from the
Stammapostel, but in all services also remarks from the
Stammapostelgottesdiensten. Likewise it and Apostel Schmidt
in the Saarland were common with me, where I would have
represented the Stammapostel well. He would have heard
nothing unfavorable over the Stammapostel of me. Which
concerns the ominoese discussion in the dwelling
district-oldest crying, then I have about this Apostel sound
asked, which there it is to concern, I would later be not
conscious me of 15/27 of such a thing. There Apostel said
sound to me that he would not have been anyhow thereby.
Likewise I asked district-oldest wines whether he would know,
when such a discussion in its dwelling was to have taken
place and which should have been spoken there meinerseits.
He said to me then the Stammapostel to him said, such was
been by day before my choice to the Stammapostel successor,
thus on 20 May 1948. I district-oldest wines asked, whether
he would know, the what I to have said there am, whereupon
he said to me, in of it nothing was not well-known and it
also under any circumstances thereby would have been. To 25.
November 1950, to which days of my declaration of withdrawal
of the Stammapostelhelferamte, me the Stammapostel accused
among other things that I would have adversely spoken
district-oldest crying in the dwelling to the Aposteln about
it, such would have one a floor over the dwelling
district-oldest crying heard. As I the Stammapostel said
that I would know of it nothing and that he should say to me
nevertheless, what I have spoken there should there has he
that rejected. When Apostel petrol Guettinger made 1950
holidays in August, he visited also the Stammapostel in
Frankfurt! At the opportunity the Stammapostel said to it,
he does not need an aid, he feels me healthy [ P. 11 ] etc..
And if kuhlen the bishop yielded in its order as Apostel
assigned and in addition yard serves the district has, then
it would have needed to be in addition no Stammapostelhelfer,
in addition simply a Apostel could be determined. The
Stammapostel was thus so far come that it said openly, he
has no aid necessarily and a successor would not be
applicable for it not. The reality was certainly that it
availed itself ever more of another man than aids in various
important affairs, which the Stammapostel considered and
settled unofficially with that man. I asked then a daily
confidentially spoken with district-oldest wines about all
my statements and perceptions and him to say to me openly
whether it is not advisable, which I am to withdraw as
Stammapostelhelfer and successors of the Stammapostels, so
that I with the Stammapostel and the Stammapostel with me
became again completely one. Whereupon district-oldest said
wines completely decided the fact that I may do such a step
in no case because the work then drops surely completely and
completely people work would become. I would like to bear
nevertheless, as long as I could. It was however always
obvious that radically on the fact it was hang-worked that I
had to disappear as Stammapostelhelfer and successors of the
Stammapostels. So it was also nothing surprising for me, but
only for a long time it feared that into calendar published
of the publishing house 16/27 Friedrich Bischoff for the
year 1951, that the Aposteln in the 2. November half of 1950
was set, a direct attack against my position in works to
read was. In this article it was openly expressed that the
Mr. the Stammapostel would have shown at all still no
successor. That was conscious work, by which an action
against me are released and by questions over this thing a
decision be caused should. In this article the among other
things following inconsistencies were located: no successor
(as Stammapostel) had used; because it did not have an order
to do such. If the gentleman would have wanted that, then it
would have been him a small to appear Petrus again and to
show it, which is to be assigned the Apostel or office
brothers at that time the further guidance of the God people.
Since however did not happen, it lay also in the will of the
Herrn.??????????Es did not happen however something else:
When gradually all Apostel had home-gone into the eternity,
there selected the upper apostolischen church at that time
from its center one, which should take over from now to the
guidance of the God people. That first, which followed from
its choice, was the bishop von Rom. These men acted at that
time certainly after their good faith and after quite
humanly understandable considerations. When each God
revealing was missing regarding the follow-up Petri, they
did not want nevertheless that the people of God without a
highest Seelenhirten would remain. It was however evenly
only humanly understandable, because it was humanly meant;
because the following 19 centuries showed that God was not
fulfilled to this voting well-known usw.??????????Als now
however the time again after the yardsticks of God, there
separated the gentleman again a man from etc.; Apostel black
in Holland. It received itself in the same way as once
Petrus its order from the Herrn.??????????Und the Mr.
well-known to the work of this God man, and it showed it,
since the time had come that it should home-go into the
paternal roof, its successor in the Stammapostel cancer.
Stammapostel Niehaus, that followed it for his part in the
evening of its work-rich and gesegneten life in the service
of the Mr. the high office in the same order as its
predecessors the Stammapostel Johann Gottfried Bischoff is
more uebertrug.??????????Er the firm conviction on the same
way of the goettlichen appointment that the gentleman will
not home-get any longer for a long time forgiven and its
still during his lifetimes in the paternal roof,
particularly him the gentleman?? after its own words?? still
showed none, that the God work on ground connection after
him [ P. 12 ] to resume is?????????????? Only a short
statement for these remarks: Mr. Meyer Meyer-Geweke either
never wrote this article, or however after express
instruction; because it would not have dared to write such
without agreement its bread gentleman under any
circumstances?? 17/27 according to this article were it thus
God will, which was to remain after the death of a Petrus
the herd Christi without highest hirten. It was God-intended
thus not goettliche permission, but that after Petri death
no more Apostel and no Stammapostel should not feast the
herd. The statement that, after all Apostel of the gentleman
had become extinct in the time of the Urkirche the upper
ones of the Apostoli church at that time selected one out
their center, i.e. the bishop von Rom, so that this is to
resume the work the work, witness from an unawareness of
church history without resembling, or are one to assume the
fact that a such distortion of the facts was intentionally
made so that only all in the contexts of made plans fit? The
last Apostel, that from the time of the Urkirche deceased
around the year 100 after Christi birth; but choosing the
bishop von Rom as head of the church took place then under
no circumstances briefly thereafter, it at lifetimes of only
one office-holder, who still lived with the death of the
Apostels Johannes home-gone last, did not even happen, but
occurred only in 4. Century after Christo, i.e. in the year
328 after Christi birth. And then the release work of the
end time is not to have begun no more at one time in England
with calling the English Apostel, but as all only once a
Stammapostel black by God to have been appointed. That
indeed a bad historical falsification; because first was the
English Apostel there. Then as first Apostel of the new
order the Apostel Rosochasky and Preuss was called, still
before black carried the Apostelamt. At same time with
Apostel black lift the Apostel Preuss, Boeseke, hollow,
Steegmann, Hoppe, fruit, Menkhoff, cancer, Ruff, Anthing,
Lim Tjoeluin, Niemeyer and Klibbe as Apostel of the new
order worked. All this Apostel worked during the lifetime of
the Apostels black, without one of them?? also black not??
Stammapostel was; because the Stammapostelamt did not give
it yet at all at this time. Also Apostel black became never
Stammapostel, even if he after that 1878 took place death of
the Apostel Preuss the most outstanding personality in
circles of the Apostel were. Neither Preuss nor black
carried the Stammapostelamt. Also Apostel cancer was not
appointed by black as the Stammapostelamte, because the
Stammapostelamt did not decease in the 1895 as Apostel black
yet existed. Only at Whitsuntide 1897 Apostel cancer in
presence of the Apostel Niehaus, fruit and Ruff was chosen
as a leader of the Apostoli municipalities and as head of
the Apostelschar. But even father cancer was called not
Stammapostel, but was called still Apostel cancer. One
always spoke of him as the unit father a cancer. Only
Apostel Niehaus carried officially the name Stammapostel!
Then the last member should be in this chain Stammapostel J.
G. Bischoff. Did the dear God speak about it with Mr. Meyer
Meyer-Geweke? 18/27?? And then a sentence, which had to lead
to the confusion among the neuapostolischen office brothers
and brothers and sisters, comes i.e. in that article: it
more??Er the firm conviction is that the gentleman will
home-get its still during his lifetimes in the paternal
roof, particularly it the gentleman?? after its own words??
still showed none, that the God work on ground connection
after him to resume is?????? This sentence stands in the
glaring contradiction to at the 1. August 1948 made action
of the segregation of a successor for the Stammapostel J. G.
Bischoff. Such Schreiberei had to release logical way all
kinds of questions and thoughts. For me it was directly
clear that Mr. Meyer Meyer-Geweke was only the advanced man,
who order in accordance with such an article had to write,
because [ P. 13 ] the people, which wanted to see me in no
case as successors of the Stammapostels, dared, with its own
name such snubbing of my appointment to represent. I have
then first with Apostel Dehmel spoken, that was brightly
frightened over a such insolence, those at the foundations
of the apostolischen work shook?? I called for Apostel
Knigge, which equal me said that he would probably know, why
I with him to speak wanted, it had because of this bad
article already with Apostel wine man telephones, who would
have been entruestet and said over doing Meyer Gewekes,
there would remain nothing different one, than which I to
the Stammapostel drive immediately should and there a
reprimand would have to demand Meyer Gewekes?? I spoke also
by telephone with Apostel sound, which had not read the
article up to then yet, to which I read out however the same
in its main clauses at the telephone and which was indignant
then, because by such letter the organization of the work of
God was attacked. He guessed/advised me, I was to drive to
the Stammapostel and talk to him nevertheless immediately
about it?? Other morning early me Apostel sound called
already timely and said that he had seriously thought at
night about the affair and that he would guess/advise me
after knowledge of the state of affairs and conditions in
Frankfurt, I should satisfies to be and to Frankfurt not
drive, because perhaps one that as a self-defense would
understand. The time would correct this Schreiberei
automatically?? I spoke also with Apostel Schmidt, which
said to me that it was very unfortunate that Meyer Geweke
wrote such an article and like the man at all to it come
etc.. I said to Apostel Schmidt, he had to know nevertheless
that the Meyer Geweke is only the advanced man, who is to
advance the thing of my removal perhaps unconsciously;
because I would have already said to it before longer time
that does not determine people to the fact to resign itself
wanted that I should become once the successor of the
Stammapostels. I asked then still Apostel Schmidt which it
me would guess/advise, meant he: immediately to the
Stammapostel and speak 19/27 to it?? I asked: does you also???
there it answered completely briefly: did say does I to him
there??dann it knows that everyone, which takes part in a
driving of these people all the time makes itself jointly
guilty at the blood of hundredthousand good, einfaeltigen
souls?? He then still meant to me: I in the today's
realization would have confessed at that time, then I would
have said the fact that we would not have done anything
better in the question of the successor of the Stammapostel
but simply the Stammapostel to have should?? I continued to
say to him then: more??Ueber the question, whether the
action was human or goettlich, I am internally perfectly
calmed down, because if a so large number of Apostel at the
realization had arrived that I chose from the gentleman am,
then applies for me that substantially more than faces and
dreams of any brothers and sisters, whom one regards as God
revealing, where approximately one would unfortunately
dismiss the word of many Apostel as people opinion. Also
didn't I select myself, but the choice was arranged by the
Stammapostel?????? Apostel Dehmel spoke then still by
telephone with Apostel wine man about the affair, which then
opposite Apostel Dehmel expressed, which one stands now
before the question, like once until Marks, i.e.: If one
holds it with the old emperor, then one spoils it with the
Kronprinzen, or holds one it with the Kronprinzen, then one
spoils it with the emperor! There was its opinion expression
openly opposite the Apostel Dehmel that it was outrageous of
Mr. [ P. 14 ] Meyer Geweke?? to write such; but it knows, if
one would say the Apostel something against Fritz Bischoff,
would spoil it with the Stammapostel, and with Stammapostel
it wants to spoil it in no case. Apostel Dehmel asked it
then, whether it was not advisable, once with some Aposteln
to meet and with these advise, which one could do against
such Quertreiberei. Whereupon Apostel said wine man: Do not
do over sake sky, because that is in such a manner badly
taken to you, then are you down through. We experienced
nevertheless so terrible in this regard that us the desire
passed to talk with any Aposteln about such things. I do not
go believe I for the next half year into holidays, thereby
me anybody reached and I to all nothing to say need?? I
called then district-oldest wines and asked him, what the
Stammapostel would have said to this article. Bez. Aelt.
Then that the Stammapostel would have said tags before in
the morning, he said wines to me in the evening the new
calendar before got and this article read. It had a
sleepless night and nachgegruebelt over it which this
article would probably release. It has from this article
only experienced, when the calendar already was in the
dispatch, it the same before did not read. It wanted to take
up a letter at the Apostel, where it would communicate the
same that Mr. Meyer Meyer-Geweke without 20/27 and without
its will such had written his knowledge. Did he say in the
year 1947 that the Mr. him showed up to then still no
successor, but that is in the meantime outdated by the made
action?? This letter should be set then the Aposteln on
request, so that they could say such to the asking. The Bez.
Aelt. Wines then to the Stammapostel suggested not being
waiting only until the Apostel wrote about this, but such a
letter directly to the Apostel to send, so that large
confusion would not only come. Thus the Stammapostel agreed,
and other mornings wanted he the letter to write and
dispatch. Then the Stammapostel has at noon again with the
Bez. Aelt. It cry called and it said, it also just spoke
with Fritz does that this is in the next number of??Unsere
family?? an appropriate correction to the article of the
calendar bring?? I waited then for the letter of the
Stammapostels, which did not come however, as I had
suspected it; because I knew from many experience, which the
spirit wants and that with the article in the calendar a
certain intention had been pursued. I called with the Bez.
oldest ones of wines then again whether the letter of the
Stammapostels was not yet mailed. Then oldest one said wines
with Bez., which Stammapostel was in Karlsruhe had been,
where it also with Apostel @#%$ had spoken, to let and this
would have guessed/advised the Stammapostel not to write the
Apostel but the thing come actually near. In addition the
Bez. oldest Fritz Bischoff telephoned in the meantime with
the Aposteln Schmidt and wine man and to the Stammapostel
reported that it spoke with these two Aposteln and that
these would have found the article completely in the
calendar in order. (to what extent this statement over the
statements of the Apostel Schmidt and wine man correspond to
the facts opposite the son of the Stammapostels, I cannot
naturally say). I called some days after again with the Bez.
Aelt. Wines on and asked, how the thing stands. It wanted to
give no more information with however then absolutely and
said only: here of the office strict instructions have to
explain to each Apostel, which would call about here, they
might over nothing information give, but should themselves
in writing to the Stammapostel turn?? I knew then already
sun clear that the work of my removal ran as a successor of
the Stammapostels on full speed and that one had completely
umgestimmt the Stammapostel meanwhile, therefore penetrated
I pleadingly into the Bez. Aelt. Cries in, he may me a
fraternal advice nevertheless give, what I am to do. But it
did not want no more with [ P. 15 ] the language out, it was
very much intimidated and had directly fear to speak. I
asked then completely urgently, what now was loose, he may
to me say, thus nevertheless I evtl. to the spirit to
forestall and from me mean to explain resignation could.
Then 21/27 brother of wines let itself be softened to say to
me that the son of the Stammapostels in its order ordered
several Apostel to Frankfurt to a discussion, which has the
goal to cancel on 1 August 1948 as an action made in human
property opinion. Then I continued to ask whether he
believed that the ordered Apostel??ja?? would say. Whereupon
it said completely smallloud: more??Leider do I have
assuming than surely?? In addition it said to me that the
Stammapostel agrees in such a manner in the meantime with
the opinion of its son that it would be probably impossible
for the consequence that again a erspriessliches
co-operation between the Stammapostel and me could take
place as Stammapostelhelfer. The Stammapostel has meanwhile
so many documents prepared to the proof for the fact that
its appointment at that time would have been to the
successor of the Stammapostels Niehaus in accordance with
the then existing faces etc. of goettlicher kind that
however my installation would have been purely human, that I
would have floated too all that at that time and the
exclusive debt at everything deceives. Then I asked brother
of wines: they me please still another dear service and go
saying again to the Stammapostel and to him, it may me and
the incommodity of a probably very bitter argument over the
affair in the Apostelkreise and also the people of God this
tragedy save. I would be ready to withdraw from me again on
my starting position as Bezirksapostel and to return the
office as Stammapostelhelfer and successors in the
Stammapostelamte. I explained also the fact that I wanted to
absolutely have a personal discussion with the Stammapostel
and that I insure the Stammapostel that I do not even want
to let myself in with him into a discussion over the affair
that I would like to however absolutely live with it in good
agreement, since I never and never strove for the crown, but
only and alone blessed wanted to become, whereby it is for
me secondary matter whether I can create district again only
as Bezirksapostel in the Duesseldorfer. The Stammapostel may
be nevertheless so good and receive me other morning for one
hour for the regulation of the affair. This telephone
conversation with district-oldest wines was in the evening
24. November 1950. Afterwards brother of wines went to the
Stammapostel and to him contents of our discussion reported.
Brother of wines called me then in the same evening still
that the Stammapostel wanted to receive me on the other
morning at 10 o'clock that I should bring along however my
request for resignation in writing; then my verabschiedung
in all honours would happen. I said to the fact that I would
not intend to bring along a letter, but only the process of
the conversation with the Stammapostel to wait for and then
according to the course of events of the conversation in
Frankfurt the letter would like to formulate could. 22/27 I
asked then still the Bez. Aelt., which the Stammapostel had
continued to say to it. And brother of wines said to me that
the Stammapostel had obviously drawn a deep breath and would
be obviously glad that this solution would come. I asked
then Bez. Aelt. Wines to say to me openly whether an
accusation would possibly be present against me, whether I
could possibly be come in my office guidance something
guilty etc.. There Bez. Aelt said. Wines: Not at all, but he
has the impression, if I withdraw from the position as
Stammapostelhelfer and a successor in the Stammapostelamte,
then is good everything, then will also the people, those
behind the thing put to be completely content. I continued
to ask whether he would guess/advise me somewhat to withdraw
also as Apostel and go completely into the retirement, so
that I would get completely reliably peace. Bez. Aelt. Wines
meant then: in addition they have absolutely no veranlassung,
remain them in any case in the Apostelamt.??????Ja?? said
I??ich also no veranlassung has, when Stammapostelhelfer
must do to withdraw and this step nevertheless. Is it not
nevertheless better, I lets [ P. 16 ] it on it depend and
speaks then in a Apostelversammlung in all openness over all
the sad bad states, those in works in highest place is
present and those the work to ruin and into the abyss floats???
There Bez. Aelt said. Wines much betruebt: At the moment I
do not see other way out than that that you withdraw as
Stammapostelhelfer; because in a Apostelversammlung the
Stammapostel would place the Apostel before the consequence:
either they stand to it, or they should profess themselves
to me. If then the Apostel spoke closed against the
Stammapostel, then that would mean its death. And if the
Apostel, which would be probable, held partly to the
Stammapostel, partly to me conditions, and if then all bad
things, which happened, came to language, then there would
be completely reliably in works of God one no longer too
welfare-ends Spaltung.??????Gut?? said I then??ich from me a
resignation from the Stammapostelhelferamte and than
successors of the Stammapostels will thus submit, in order
to save to that works such a disaster; because rather I want
to be the victim, when souls let hundredthousand come into
terrible faith fights. If it is good then thereby then me
the victim would be small?? Then brother said wines as last
words: know, how I stand to everything and that I see the
things correct; we want to cry to God that it save its work
and: the old God lives still!?? Then has to Bez. Aelt. Wines
said that I would be thus different morning at 10 o'clock
with Apostel Dehmel with the Stammapostel. In the same
evening me Apostel petrol Guettinger very late still called
from Switzerland that the son of the Stammapostels had
called him, it is on Monday, 27 November 1950 to Frankfurt
to come, it would like however this journey secret to keep
and nobody somewhat of it say, it concerns an important
discussion with the Stammapostel. Apostel O. Guettinger
23/27 asked me then, whether I would know, what is there the
matter. I said to him around which it act and it opened to
him at the same time that I would make my office available
on the next morning to Frankfurt to drive and as
Stammapostelhelfer and a successor in the Stammapostelamte.
there Apostel O. Guettinger said??das you not to do, that is
nevertheless impossible?? I said then: resolution is
unalterable and irrevocable?? There Apostel O called.
Guettinger in the telephone inside: which I want to say to
you, that am the first and large disappointment, which I
experience at you. You become nevertheless never back-soft
before an old man, particularly since you know nevertheless
that this old man is only advanced and backers want this
thing so. You may not withdraw?? I said: likes with my
project?? Then Apostel O. Guettinger of me said good-bye
with noticing: I do not come more drueber, I go for long
time away, because now I do not know no more that I am to
say?? I asked it still to intend me the friendship too kept
and mine in prayers and said good-bye from a striking down.
Other morning drove I then with Apostel Dehemel to
Frankfurt, or more correctly said: after Canossa; because it
was truly a Canossagang of bitterest kind, deepest
humiliating for me. It is probably understandable that both
Apostel Dehmel had slept therefore also I during the night
of 24. on 25 November 1950 everyone only scarcely one hour;
because innumerable thoughts hunted each other, which in
this situation for the work of God the correct was probably:
to let come it to an open discussion in the Apostelkollegium
and thus to a fight to a cleaning, or whether more is to be
answered for it to be silent. As one could probably exist
etc. etc. before God and the own conscience. And we
exchanged these tormenting questions and thoughts during our
travel to Frankfurt in all thoroughness. Apostel Dehmel held
for me before eyes that he the conviction was, [ P. 17 ]
that the fight for purity and cleanliness in works to later
times as would come in such a way now or however; that it
would be more bearable finally, I would do the step, how I
intended it to withdraw i.e. that however thereby would be
probably not so served the people of God. To everything back
and forth also I came to the resolution to say to the
Stammapostel the fact that I could not submit the
resignation after careful consideration because thereby
arises sometimes works for the damage and that I would
insist etc. on the summoning of a Apostelversammlung. I was
then also firmly decided to speak and to him the reasons for
it say in all peace in addition, in all clarity with the
Stammapostel, why I do not withdraw 24/27 was allowed and
could, come which there wants, then was mine and ours intend,
but?? when we were with the Stammapostel, where Bez. Aelt.
was present, we experienced a volcanic eruption from the
heart of the Stammapostel, how he was probably poured by him
still over none?? The Stammapostel began calmly with the
words: want to thus withdraw on their part from as
Stammapostelhelfer, how said haben???????Ja?? I said
yesterday it to evening brother of wines??dazu am I ready,
but they forgive me, if I liked to ask, what had I now
actually done??? I did not continue to come; because
Stammapostel jumped up there excited and did not speak no
more, but cried and raved: which they did, they incited all
Apostel against me. They drove behind my back to the
Aposteln and me forced to make the action at that time. They
put the letter on at that time, which the 15 Apostel signed.
They and Apostel Lembke were behind my back with the
Aposteln. I would times not like to be in the eternity in
the skin of the Apostels Lembke. Put the democratic spirit
to it at that time into the Apostel and deviated thereby
from the teachings. In the dwelling of brother wines incited
it the Apostel against me. One heard and me told that in the
floor over it. Yes, white I, that have her meant etc. etc.??
I was silent completely quietly during this rage outbreak,
with which the Stammapostel struck the anger veins on the
table and stood with that on its Stirne,; because that was
Apostel Dehmel and me clearly that with retorts to these
accusations of the Stammapostels the same would have
probably gotten an impact accumulation before excitation,
and then one into the world outside would have posaunt, we
would have the Stammapostel on the conscience. Thus we
remained both completely quiet. The Stammapostel lost each
attitude and particularly sued in its further remarks the
Apostel E. Guettinger with its democratic convicition. It
proved however recently Swiss Aposteln that the action at
that time was ungoettlich; because the gentleman gave it a
revealing that he would lead the people of God to the
completion. He said Swiss to Aposteln, and repeat he also
opposite us: C h w e r D e n i C h t s t e r b e n.?? There
Swiss Apostel would have made large eyes; but would know,
what he said and it would remain also thereby. He would know
probably that it was much said??ich will not die?? however
he it will never differently say, because if he would say it
ever differently, then would be that deviates from the
teachings. The Wiederkunft of the gentleman is approaching
close, and who does not teach that, stand wrongly. I threw
in then shyly that I would have always preached the close
Wiederkunft of the gentleman, on which he said excited:
close is called?, thus can one month, thus can one year and
be still much longer meant?? Then I said and determine:
25/27 do not teach only that the Wiederkunft of the
gentleman is close, but I preach urgently again and again:
it furnish you on the fact does that the gentleman can
appear to each day, each instant?? whereupon the
Stammapostel was silent. I said then still quietly:
Stammapostel I could be come [ P. 18 ] for instance in my
office guidance as Stammapostelhelfer something to debts???
That was already too much: because again the Stammapostel
jumped up and cried: do they??Stehen to what they said
yesterday to brother of wines, and do want to withdraw them?
Otherwise I submit the thing to the Apostelkollegium, and
then they will experience that the Apostel, which at that
time were for them today against them are with few
exceptions. Then they will alone stand there. Now the
Apostel comes and repents that they at that time tempted had
themselves today to recognize her that you do were human,
now break down the whole house of cards. Thus, they remain
with the fact that they want to withdraw? sun??????????????
and then it went to the Tuere with which it was clear that
he would eject and, if I not and amen said. I said then
again completely calmly: Yes, I remain, I am ready to
withdraw as Stammapostelhelfer but I would not like to
separate under any circumstances from them, without being
with them in peace, I want in any case with them one to be,
completely directly, which may also come. I yield it simply
not, which should be something between them and me. I have
nights behind me, which were for my wife and me a terrible
Gethsemane, and I am afraid nearly that my wife will die
before Gram and grief?? There the Stammapostel said loud,
hard and coldly: is now the harvest of their sowing; I got
at that time 220 (so approximately) hours sleep too little??
I said then still?? always completely calmly??: letter,
which was addressed at that time to it, was nevertheless not
from me alone written, the same with will of the Apostel
present in Berlin was written nevertheless however. There
the Stammapostel said again very badly: have it geschrieben.??????Ja??
said I??das are correct in as much as I made the last recopy.
Apostel Schmidt and Apostel of upper countries wrote the
first draft in the office of the Apostels land count after
unsern together exchanged thoughts, then it was read out the
present Aposteln and meant this that some awkward
expressions of the letter would have to be set differently.
And I wrote then the final text of the letter, with which I
rounded the draft off of the Apostel Schmidt and upper
countries, thus no word, which could hurt somehow, therein
stand.??????????Sie the letter wrote?? was called it there
again. then I said 26/27: Stammapostel, if what the Apostel
did at that time, were humanly and an error, then would have
acted not only I humanly and incorrectly, but the others
also?? Since however a material discussion was completely
impossible, and there with further answering meinerseits to
an open break it comes would be and was there also obvious
that erspriessliches working was in the future impossible as
Stammapostelhelfer at that the Stammapostels, then said I
the fact that I would withdraw as Stammapostelhelfer and
again like in former times as Bezirksapostel in the
Duesseldorfer of districts would like to be active. That was
then for the Stammapostel the releasing word and it became
immediately substantially calmer. He said then completely
dear to me: they again only as Bezirksapostel work, then
thereby the affair at that time is settled, then everything
is good, then the gentleman with them will be?? I asked then
the Stammapostel still whether it was also really good
thereby, if I withdrew as Stammapostelhelfer and would work
again as Bezirksapostel, on which he answered: more??Aber
naturally, I had her nevertheless always dear and have her
also further dear?? I still added: it knows however that
some do not want to have me and that this perhaps further
against me to stand and no peace give; do they hold then in
the future protecting their hands over me and do protect me
against those??? Again the Stammapostel said: certainly, I
promise them?? [ P. 19 ] far ones I then again asked briefly:
I in my office guidance as Stammapostelhelfer something
operates made or is present otherwise complaints against
me??? otherwise nothing at all is not available against it??
said there the Stammapostel. Then I asked the Stammapostel
nevertheless, if I possibly which errors have made should,
then may it to me assign. And whereupon the Stammapostel
said: hearts gladly!?? And then it gave me a kiss. The
Stammapostel asked me then, in the office on the Sofienstr.
to go 48 and to put the letter on with my declaration of
withdrawal there. He said still: are heart ill, then they
can write that they withdraw from health back sighting?? I
said: I would not like, because I want to remain with the
truth?? I went then with the Bez. Aelt. Wines and Apostel
Dehmel to the office on the Sofienstr. 48, in order to
formulate the letter, which I delivered thereafter to the
Stammapostel. As we in the office in the Sofienstr. 48
arrived, the Stammapostel with that to there active hirten
weiler had already telephoned and to him had said, he might
have ordered me, I am to insert into the 27/27 letter, I
would withdraw, because I came to the realization that the
Stammapostel would complete the work of God?? Whereupon I
answered: I do not do, because that is not my conviction??
Below the wording that of letter, which I touched down then
and to which Stammapostel handed over: 25. November 1950
cordial of loved Stammapostel! After I was active now over 2
years as Stammapostelhelfer in works of God, I had won view
of your work and also into your faith realization over the
completion of the work of God. I see myself not grown and
would like hereby weight to the future task of a
Stammapostels me order given by the Apostelkollegium by you
to work as Stammapostelhelfer and future Stammapostel return
into your hands. After the conversation heut had with you I
will operate like in former times me exclusively as
Bezirksapostel of the Apostelbezirks Duesseldorf in the unit
with you and the Aposteln. In admiration, cordial love and
solidarity their devoted sgd.: P. Kuhlen
Yours in Christ,
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